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# Covert Contact 19: Encryption as the New Norm: Discussing A Changing Internet with ProtonMail Co-Founder Andy Yen
- URL: https://johnwlittle.com/encryption-as-the-new-norm-discussing-a-changing-internet-with-protonmail-co-founder-andy-yen/
- Published: 2015-03-26T20:12:02.000Z
- Updated: 2026-10-17T18:23:21.000Z
- Description: Over the past couple of weeks I’ve been evaluating ProtonMail. This service is part of a new generation of tools (most inspired by Edward Snowden) developed with the aim of delivering robust encrypted communications and file sharing to the widest possible audience.
- Author: John Little
- Tags: Covert Contact, Interviews, Technology, Security, Privacy, Encryption

Over the past couple of weeks I’ve been evaluating [ProtonMail](http://protonmail.ch/?ref=johnwlittle.com). This service is part of a new generation of tools (most inspired by Edward Snowden) developed with the aim of delivering robust encrypted communications and file sharing to the widest possible audience.

Blogs of War readers know that I’m not an Edward Snowden fan, far from it in fact, but I do believe that we have to secure the applications and communication channels that now pervade our lives. Not because I’m worried about the NSA. I’m far more worried about every other threat. I’m also keenly aware of the terrorist and criminal threats we face and why law enforcement agencies and intelligence services (the friendly ones) are deeply concerned about bad actors having the ability to go dark.

There are well-intentioned people on both sides of the privacy debate (see [episode 18 with retired FBI agent David Gomez](http://covertcontact.com/2015/03/22/the-battle-between-encryption-and-mass-surveillance-with-former-fbi-agent-david-gomez-episode-18/?ref=johnwlittle.com) for a law enforcement perspective) and Andy Yen, as a privacy advocate, makes a powerful case for making encrypted communication tools as widely available as possible.

For more from Andy I recommend his TED Talk “[Think your email’s private? Think again](https://www.ted.com/talks/andy%5Fyen%5Fthink%5Fyour%5Femail%5Fs%5Fprivate%5Fthink%5Fagain?language=en&ref=johnwlittle.com).“